Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. In the iconic south-west corner of Australia, colonial descendent Sam Carmody set out to uncover long-held family secrets and discovered terrible acts of settler violence that remain largely unknown and unacknowledged. }, First published on October 30, 2009 / 8:29 AM. We had quite the adventure locating the Spicer Cemetery, it's completely overgrown sadly :(. Ancestors at that time could be listed in Virginia or Pennsylvania. He built them a snug log home on Sugartree Creek in the Yadkin Valley where they lived for ten years, the longest period of time they spent in one place. 37.622688, -82.168712. Important details about Logan have been disputed by scholars, including his original name and whether or not the words of "Logan's Lament" were actually his. The white People killed my kin at Coneestoga a great while ago, & I thought nothing of that. I have sought it: I have killed many: I have fully glutted my vengeance. The testimony from the domestic abuse counselor is pretty damning. Hi, I too am a Spicer/Bowen descendant and I came across your post here while I was reading about the Spicer Massacre. I'm a Spicer/Bowen descendant through my mother's paternal line. I too would love to obtain a copy of the family book! I walk two miles to town (Corydon) every time there is a baseball game. I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, my name is Alfrieda Spicer. Several parties of mixed Mingo and Shawnee warriors soon struck the frontier, including one led by Logan. As part of a treaty of the Lord Dunmore War between the Colony of Virginia and Shawnee and Mingo nations, she was returned as a prisoner of war at Muddy Creek on Christmas Day 1774 to Colonel George Wilson. They attacked settlers in several frontier regions, both killing and taking captives. Logan the Orator (c. 17231780) was a Cayuga orator and war leader born of one of the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy. Or did he think she was involved? A second group of Mingos attempted another landing, but like the first, was turned away by Greathouse and his companions. Logan was not at the Battle of Point Pleasant (October 10, 1774), the only major battle of Dunmore's War. The article doesnt say! [2] Lawson, having purchased his own farm two years previous, however, together with the fact that an Associated Press wire that went out on the day after the murders characterized Lawson as a "well-to-do farmer",[3] would make a pre-Christmas shopping spree appear reasonable. He says: Last Friday was two weeks ago (October 21), Logan, a famous chief went home with a little boy, a son of Roberts on Holston, and two of Blackmore's Negroes. Elizabeth Spicer Bowen died in 1845 and is buried in Davistown in Dunkard Township, Greene County, PA. Matewan, WV 25678. Statement of Jesse Logan, aged 106 years old and Great Grandson of Chief Shikellamy She can't describe his face or his age or his clothing. He had 3 known brothers and one sister. I'm William's 7 great granddaughter. The old cellar of the Logan family home is all that may remain after the 1886 fire which consumed Anna Logan and four of her children. Answering the Call to Serve: Camp Logan, Houston, Texas 1917-1919. Thomas in this story comes up as a true line for me when I added him as my 4th GG grandfather, but there is no Michael listed a child of theirs. Influential tribal chiefs in the region, such as Cornstalk (Shawnee), White Eyes (Lenape), and Guyasuta (Seneca/Mingo), attempted to negotiate a peaceful resolution lest the incident develop into a larger war, but by Native American custom Logan had the right to retaliate for the murders. The Logan family name was found in the USA, the UK, Canada, and Scotland between 1840 and 1920. Lawson shot Marie, and then found and killed the two boys. Myers shot and killed the Indian. A war to chastise them ,would be ineffective and would inevitably lead to the "destruction of this country. The Logan Cemetery as it appears today north of Interstate 44. My maiden name is Rebecca Jo Bowen. Ok. What did Stout think Stacy knew about the shootings? My mother was a daughter of the Seneca Chief Cornplanter. The brothers also planned to rob the family and took an Acer Aspire laptop computer, the documents say. Christopher Harris, 30, and Jason Harris, 22, are charged in the deaths. I couldn't get past the first couple pages. I killed hundreds of elk, many bear and deer, and quite a few panthers, the last in 1860. My cousin said to google and that is how I came upon this conversation. Probably both. I hunted elk with the famous Jim Jacobs many times. There are many Logans in the Reservations in Pennsylvania and New York; some are descended from my brother and sisters, others adopted the name because of the honor attached to it. She would of been my 6th great grandmother. Any info about my grandfather's family would be appreciated. It was there on April 30, in Logan's absence, that the infamous Yellow Creek Massacre occurred. Keith Gibson. It has all the classic tales of Native Americans raiding and Colonists surviving the best they could in the wilderness of southwestern Pennsylvania. He took revenge for family members killed by Virginian Long knives in 1774 in what is known as the Yellow Creek Massacre. She is now married and has a baby son she named Edrick Scott. For example, Scott's 14yo girlfriend, Paige Harshbarger, was sleeping over with him that night. Alarmed by the gunfire from across the river, seven other members of Logan's camp started across the Ohio in two canoes to investigate. In all, approximately a dozen Mingo were murdered in the cabin and on the river. One known as the Spicer Massacre in Greene County, Pennsylvania. Have you reached the part of the rabbit-hole where Stout finds out his 3yo son is another man's? display: none; Ashley, who didn't get along with her stepdad because of his rules, said he had money in his house. William was the "White Renegade" man involved with the massacre of the Crow sisters. The attack was swift and brutal. On April 30 some members of the hunting party, Chief Logans wife Mellana, his brother Taylaynee (called John Petty by many English speakers), Taylaynee's son, Molnah and Logan's sister, Koonay, who was also the pregnant wife of John Gibson a prominent trader with whom she already had one daughter. On that note, I think it's a little odd that Scott was celebrating his graduation night with his 15 year-old sister, her boyfriend, and her two friends. CNN . I always sought to know more about the Spicer's lineage. Found dead in the family massacre were Raymond and Ruth Gee, approximately 46 and 39 years old, and their three children ages 11 to 16. I love a joke and enjoy a good dinner. There runs not a drop of my blood in the veins of any living creature. 78-81. On a quiet morning of September 24, 1774, there was a sudden retribution made in the southern most boundary of Native American territory as War Chief James Logan and his companions massacred the John Roberts family, except one son, at the north fork of Reedy Creek. A new burial marker for the six deceased members of the Logan family will be installed at the Logan Cemetery later this year. But gray hair? I wish I knew your name. Do you think Stout coached or coaxed Stacy in that first interview? in the split second that their eyes met, he put a bullet into her forehead. ET. definitely ties the Mingo Chief John Logan, as the leader of the Roberts massacre. It resulted in the death of many people including two of the influential mutants of all time. I have always been fond of sports. The brothers pleaded not guilty to all the charges during a Wednesday court appearance. I took after my grandfather, as I am of large stature. During the Seven Years War, Shikellamy and his family had sought refuge at Thomas McKee's trading post. There can be little doubt that Logan and Alexander McKee knew one another well, but the extent of their contact during the spring of 1774 is unknown. After his 1760s move to the Ohio Country, he became affiliated with the Mingo, a tribe formed from Seneca, Cayuga, Lenape and other remnant peoples. Matewan Massacre. Today, he agreed to change his plea to guilty - on the five year anniversary of the Rhoden family massacre, in order to take the death penalty for himself off the table. The way she describes the moment, she was lying on her stomach when her killer came up behind her. Winds light and variable. The fort was under the command of Captain Simonton. Just last week, I returned from a trip to Thailand. But you killed my kin again on Yellow Creek, and took my cousin prisoner then I thought I must kill too; and I have been three time[s to war since but] the Indians is not Angry only myself. Jason Harris also is charged with obstructing justice by burning his brother's clothes, hiding a stolen computer and lying to police. As footprints encircled the tree, it was supposed that he had been pacing around the tree prior to taking his life. I wish I had been invited to attend the unveiling of my great-grandfather's [Shikellamy's] monument in Sunbury next week, but I guess that the world has forgotten Logan. Wayne Spicer from Olean, NY was her father. It would appear from the linked article that she called her step sister, who then came to the house and the step sister called police. She is the second member of the Wagner family to admit a role in the death of eight . Children, by tradition, took the clan or tribe of the mother. Possible connection between this story and this story, :http://www.wvgenweb.org/marshall/eric-crowfam.htm(Start at the line: "We now come to the well known story of the massacre of the three Crow girls")The two stories happened with in the vicinity of each other (this one in 1774 and the other in 1791 (17 years later)) is it possible that William Jr. (or a relative) Could be the Spicer mentioned in this story, No one seems to know the "Spicer"'s first name, though I admit at this point my research leaves something to be desired. Settlers remaining on the frontier immediately sought safety, either in blockhouses or by fleeing eastward across the Monongahela River. Betsy still holding her iron grabbed Williams hand with her free hand and fled through the backdoor of the cabin into the forest. Scholars agree that Logan Elrod was a son of Chief Shikellamy, an important diplomat for the Iroquois Confederacy. I know for sure we are related. The family in this case is stunned. "The panic becoming universal, claimed Connolly, "nothing but confusion, Distress and Flight was conspicuous. For my country, I rejoice at the beams of peace. Thank you. Later in the day on April 22, seven of the victims were discovered in three of the homes. This would have been an unusual occurrence for a working-class rural family of the era, which has led to speculations that Lawson's act was premeditated. This unfortunate event is known as the Dowdy Family Massacre. Missouris annual statewide tornado drill will be held at 10 a.m. Tuesday, March 7, as part of the weeks preparedness activities. Surprised I didnt know about this one. One day, a female stranger asks Logan to drive a girl named Laura to the Canadian border. I am Afro-American, my father's name is Mr. Buford Mason Spicer. Porcelain Dolls: The Stacy Moody Story, on YouTube, http://www.topix.com/forum/city/huntsville-oh/T4EKSRKBK1MEM12J7/p1. "James Logan." Reply for me details, My great great grandmother was nona spicer please e mail me at [email protected], Well, how many more skeletons are in the Spicer's Family Linage? The Mingo people laughed at the sight of the young girl attacking a grown woman and held the event as a great act of heroism. We still live, and raise cattle not 2 miles from where the spicer cabin stood. He flashed that cash in a bar and possibly was murdered for his riches. . James Logan, also called John Logan, original name Tah-Gah-Ute, (born c. 1725, probably at Shamokin [now Sunbury], Pennsylvania [U.S.]died 1780, near Lake Erie), prominent Indian leader, whose initial excellent relations with white settlers in Pennsylvania and the Ohio Territory deteriorated into a vendetta after the slaughter of his family in Possibly 5th or 6th generation. The family farm began to decline in the mid-90s, around the time of Sheri Shafer's divorce from Scott and Stacy's father, Steve, and the death of her grandmother, Wilma. After the murder of his family, though, Logan went on the warpath. Private Collection. Chief Logan. The party under Taylaynee behest crossed the river to visit the cabin of Joshua Baker, a settler and rum trader. A cake that Marie had baked on Christmas Day was displayed on the tour. During the four years he'd lived in the area, he had consistently tried to maintain peace. I'm Candace (username Omiakron). Settlers along the frontiers realized that these killings were likely to provoke the remaining Native nations of the Ohio and Monongahela River regions to attack. The young girl Betsy from this story is ny great great great great great Grandmother. Among the dead were several members of Logan's . John Murray, the 4th Earl of Dunmore and the Governor of Virginia, convinced his legislature to mobilize the state militia to suppress the natives. Arlington survived her brother Billy Frank Gilley Jr's killing of the rest of their family, and briefly fled with him before ultimately being the sole witness at the trial that sent him to jail. Background [ edit] In 1911, Charles Lawson [1] married Fannie Manring, with whom he had eight children. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Stella said that she had overheard Fannie's sisters-in-law and aunts, including Stella's mother, Jettie Lawson, discussing how Fannie had confided in them that she had been concerned about an "incestuous relationship" between Charlie and Marie. Following the family annihilation, Stacy went to live nearby with her father and stepmother, Steve and Audrey Moody. Sorry, there are no recent results for popular videos. Logan was the oldest son of Johnny Shikellamy, and both father and son were well known along the western border for their steadfast loyalty to the British. He says: Last Friday was two weeks ago (October 21), Logan, a famous chief went home with a little boy, a son of Roberts on . Well. Also I can't seem to find any record of William Jr's Children, though being that they were born into an Indian tribe this is not necessarily surprising. My father was John Logan, Jr., a Cayuga, the only surviving child of Captain John Logan, the oldest son of Shikellamy. Broadcasting & Cable Newsletter Colombia wants to deport "cocaine hippos" to stop them from multiplying She also picked up the habit of smoking a pipe, a habit that her descendants recall fondly. Accused proclaimed his innocence even as he was hung from a bridge. If I'm understanding her correctly, it sounds like she's not particularly interested in pursuing the killer because deep down she knows that whoever did it has close ties to the family (moving from one house to the other). The dark hole of Topix has quite a few opinions that it was Stout, framing Scott. John was the oldest of the siblings. Sincerely, Cheryl Bowen-Hance. I don't know why Stacy wouldn't know about the abuse. Logan (also known as Tah-gah-jute) was a Cayuga and Mingo leader in the Ohio Valley in the 1770s. By late May, only Logan's Mingos were at war. Hi Joshua, Nice meeting you. High around 60F. My takeaway is that Stacy is horribly traumatized and had nothing to do with it, and that Scott most likely did it. A 2019 massacre leaves nine Mormon women and children dead at the hands of a Mexican cartel; Lara Logan meets with the surviving family members from La Mora, a small Mormon community in Sonora, Mexico, who recount the events of that tragic day. Summary: This photo shows a group of people gathered to place a memorial stone at the site of the German family massacre in Logan County, Kansas. Each Spring, thousands of wagon trains left for California, and the story of the Arkansas Emigrants and the Mountain Meadows Massacre, has incorrectly morphed into one large, all-inclusive, "Baker-Fancher" Train whose members all departed from Bellers Stand/Milum Springs, in Carroll County, Arkansas at the same time. Because visitors began to pick at the raisins on the cake to take as souvenirs, it was placed in a covered glass cakeserver for many years. Following a prevailing Native American practice, the young man who would become Logan the Mingo took the name "James Logan" out of admiration for his father's friend.[4]. The remainder of Logan's life is shrouded in obscurity. I would love for someone to contact me as I'm trying to trace this heritage as everyone older than me is now goneFrom what I see William Spicer Cochran was my great grandfathers dad. I am a direct descendant and one of Williams great great great great great granddaughters. Published: Dec. 14, 2022 at 10:00 AM PST. This was a reunion of descendants of John and Liddia German and descendants of Medicine Water and Calf Woman whose destinies met at this site on September 11, 1874. They fell upon the Spicers, slaying Williams wife and two of the children that were inside the house. Logan's father Chief Shikellamy, who was Oneida, worked closely with Pennsylvania official James Logan to maintain the Covenant Chain relationship with the colony of Pennsylvania. Additionally his wife and 4 of his children were in the family home and someone burned it down, killing them all. The Spicer Massacre Prelude Chief Logan of the Mingo was on good terms with the English Speaking Colonist west of the Alleghenies. He was often the winner of foot races, wrestling matches, shooting contests and running the gauntlet, a practice among the natives where a man will run through two lines of other men with clubs or firebrands. The family refused to pay the ransom and Eric was eventually released, but Benjamin and a neighbor Luis Widmar were killed when 20 heavily armed men invaded the LeBaron home and shot both . [citation needed]. The Lawsons were laid to rest in a family graveyard established in 1908, originally for the use of the W. D. Browder family and selected friends and neighbors. Since her initial lengthy interview with Deputy Sheriff Jon Stout, conducted on the scene before her transfer to hospital, Stacy has been adamant that Scott was not the killer. Spicer heard the Mingo tribesmen approaching and struck his ax in a log and approached the house to get some food to offer to his visitors. WAVERLY, Ohio (FOX19) - Angela Wagner pleaded guilty Friday in connection with the 2016 Rhoden family massacre. . Skip to main content. Once they passed into Ohio through Wheeling, the Spicer children were welcomed into the tribe and treated well. my email is: [email protected] if anyone would like to get in contact with methank you, Please e mail at ptknight@live com nona spicer was my great great grabdmother. I was surprised by Stacy's lack of visible physical scars and impairment. As a result, the U.S . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. A key figure in land distribution was James Logan, agent of the Penn family, investor and political operator. Logan's friendly relations with white settlers changed after the Yellow Creek Massacre of April 30, 1774. The Gee's 3-year-old daughter also was severely injured. Maybe she wasn't home very often? Funeral of the slain Lawson family in Germanton, North Carolina, in 1929. Their fear was well founded. In my old age I am well cared for by my Indian friends, but regret that 'my blood flows not in any living person,' to use the language of my great-uncle James. The first shot, from above and behind his left ear, lodged in his sinus; the second, through the right side of his mouth, was fatal. The really wild thing is that the accused tried to blame a local black man, but neither the sheriff nor the lynch mobs believed him. Thrilling Adventures Among the American Indians by Edward S. Ellis, 1905 Some indicate that the Mingo were part of the Iroquois (Seneca) that left the Iroquois between 1740 and 1750 and migrated to Western Pennsylvania, the Ohio Country and West . He was a large, strong man, not dark in color, and with grey eyes. It was not until the book White Christmas, Bloody Christmas[5] was published in 1990 that a claim of Charlie sexually abusing Marie surfaced, beginning with an anonymous source who heard a rumor during a tour of the Lawson home shortly after the murders. 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"Episode 25: The Portrait (8.28.2015) | Criminal", "The Dispatch - Google News Archive Search", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_the_Lawson_family&oldid=1142193201, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles with unsourced statements from August 2016, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2022, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 1 March 2023, at 01:04. Logan was merely a war leader. The sexual battery charges were dismissed by two judges and twice by an appeals court. I have not been able to locate the first wife of my 3rd G.G. Pike County, Kentucky Tourism has a driving map for it. Two days later, on May 5, McKee met again with many of the same representatives. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. There is a well-established rumour that they were found in his county-issued vehicle engaged in oral sex, but the courts weren't able to make much stick. "I was born on the West Bank of the Allegheny River, in the Cornplanter Reservation, in 1809, the same year as Abraham Lincoln. His next brother was known as Tah-gah-jute, Sayughtowa, "The Beetling Brow", or James Logan. The last were names Lyman and Jesse. Word of the murders raced through the western border settlements and with it the fear of Indian retaliation. Today, it is open for burials only for direct descendants of W. D. Browder, owing to limited plot availability. Logan the Mingo is usually identified as a Mingo "chief", but historian Richard White has written that "He was not a chief. Logan continued his attacks on white settlers and associated himself with British-allied Mohawks during the American Revolution. The only survivor was his eldest son, 19-year-old Arthur, whom he had sent on an errand just before committing the crime.[4]. NYTimes piece published within 48 hours of the murders, edit: inaccurate reference to Wilma Buroker's will. Headstone inscription reads "Not now, but in the coming years, it will be a better land, We'll read the meaning of our tears and then sometime we'll understand.". Bloomington defense attorney Steve Skelton, who is representing Jason Harris, said after the court hearing that the case involves the most charges he's ever seen in a single criminal case. They encouraged Deputy Stout to stay in contact with Stacy to assure her the investigation was proceeding. Col. Cresap, the last spring, in cold blood, and unprovoked, murdered all the relations of Logan, not sparing even my women and children. The Logan Cemetery today holds the remains of Malcolm and Anna Logan as well as their four children. Coming upon Tomlinson's regimental coat and hat, he put them on and swaggered through the house claiming, "I am a White Man." This photograph of Hatfield was taken circa 1920. A mother, stepfather and a teenager have been given life sentences for murdering five-year-old Logan Mwangi and dumping his body in a river. Suspect was arrested and survived the first lynch mob only to fall victim to the second. How the hell did I not hear anything about this? In 1911, Charles Lawson[1] married Fannie Manring, with whom he had eight children. I have even thought to live with you but for the injuries of one man. I live in DC Metro area, My name is Debby Fair pleases feel free to call 760-238-3343 if your interested. The purpose of the conference was to encourage and invest in pastors and church leaders. Rebecca Jo Bowen(Becki). McKee assured his guests that the incident was the act of "a few rash and inconsiderate White People, and not by the intention or Knowledge of any of our Wise People"; he promised them that Dunmore, after he learned of the murders, would surely take every step to rectify the situation. Stacy claims it happened just as you suggest. I just visited my father's grave at Good Hope Cemetary near Jane Lew, WV, and saw a marker for Elizabeth Spicer Bowen. I wonder if you know of a way to obtain a copy. I just received information about the Spicer Massacre in 1773. Thank you. The Lawsons worked as tenant tobacco farmers, saving enough money by 1927 to buy their own farm on Brook Cove Road. On June 10, realizing that the local situation was well beyond his ability to influence, McKee wrote to Johnson and advised the superintendent that only the reimposition of imperial or Pennsylvanian control could halt the violence. So did he? Logan, the county seat of Hocking County, was named in honor of Chief Logan of the Mingo Indian tribe. But I can kind of understand her reasoning here -- she's lost so much family already, she's afraid of ripping apart what she has left. } While alive, Betsy visited William and the Mingo often and was treated as tribal royalty. The Dean family lived in the shadow of Lowry's Fort, which was erected in late 1778/early 1779. If Stout's sexual predation of Stacy pre-dated the murders, his early presence at the crime scene and interviewing of Stacy would have compromised the investigation beyond repair. Hed been a Logan County deputy sheriff for a year longer than Stacy had been alive. From " A Man of Distinction Among Them, Alexander McKee and the Ohio Country Frontier" by Larry L. Nelson, pp. Gross, at Fort Augusta, who has done so much to honor Shikellamy's memory. Among the group were four men and three women, including Logan's brother, mother, and sister who carried her two-month-old infant on her back. To the best of my knowledge, he died in this reservation, and is buried near the grave of Chief Cornplanter. The Shikellamy children were of the Cayuga Tribe. Logan and small parties of Shawnee and Mingo soon began striking frontier settlers in revenge for the murders at Yellow Creek. She was by his side for 56 years and bore him ten childrensix sons and four daughters. A police officer who was with Arthur ran down to discover Lawson's body along with letters to his parents. What's your mother's name if you don't mind I can look and see if it's in the book other than that I haven't made any copies yet but soon as I do I can email them to you or if you want to get ahold of me here's my email address [email protected], If you send me your contact info I will email you what i have on the lineage between the Bowen Spicer's written in my family book.