If you might confuse KJV with KJB its the same thing but its a preference on how people might want to call it. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. I truly dont understand this one, ha! (Hello to all my fellow-tithers!!!) This church is affiliated with the Minnesota Baptist Conference and the Baptist General Conference, and may likewise cooperate with interdenominational fellowships on a voluntary independent basis. There are some things that the IFB does very well, such as fellowship. Besides I dont understand why you shouldnt listen to Contemporary Christian music. 37. I do believe the requirements of a bishop and deacon is the husband of one wife.1 Timothy 3:2,12 we dont look down on divorced people. They bought your loyalty. 8 Dont let anyone call you Rabbi, for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters. We believe that God forbids any attempt to alter one's God-given gender identity by any means, including surgery or appearance. 14. The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of The only sin that is not forgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. Whether u believe its talking about judah/Ephraim or not. You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if Ive never been instructed their acting Rebellious or looked down on or had any concern for myself but they were rebellious. The other thing is: Nowhere in the bible are we commanded to attend a regular CHURCH building and dress nice. XII. I dont believe some of the Catholic doctrine is true, but all have belief in things they believe and unbelief in things they dont believe. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. If you believe going to the movies is a sin but not renting movies or watching them on TV, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 10. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist 22. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? You should have, instead of adding a dozen or so of your comments, said If you believe everything in the Bible, you might be an Independent Baptist. Please correct me if Im wrong, but arent we supposed to follow the teachings of the Bible, such as tithing? We believe that any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, beastiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography is a sinful perversion of God's original intent for a physical relationship between a husband and wife. For you are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthyfull of greed and self-indulgence! That may mean dressing appropriately and not dis honoring your body because its a holy temple. Christ suffered and Im still separate I have just decided to sin. I dont post this to to attack you, nor defend Dave, rather to simply point out that perhaps both are not setting the best of examples? There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:1-5: Judge not, that ye be not judged. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). I am unsure if she was already a member before her husband passed or not. More than one earring per ear for women is worldly I dont agree that multiple earrings per ear for women is worldly as long its not fancy. My ministry isnt to the lost, its to help heal those whove been hurt by the IFB. Even if you cant tithe now you can still serve in some way and later when you are able to improve your financial situation they will get your tithe. WebNo denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. WebGetting to it. I disclosed to (2) pastors at this church personal and heart felt feelings that I thought and grew up and was told you can talk to your pastor, because he is a man of God. Since the origins of the church, Baptists have said the Bible is the only authority for Christian faith 20 When you swear by the altar, you are swearing by it and by everything on it. God has given each institution specific Biblical responsibilities and has balanced those responsibilities with the understanding that no institution has the right to infringe upon the other. I didnt really say you can get drunk on grape juice but if I did, I might be a little confused. I believe being separate is doing what God has commanded you to do. Read Matthew 23 for more information. My mother doesnt wear fancy earrings. the appearance of things is more important than reality, aka, you will cover up abuse and silence victims in order to protect the name of Christ. They were so grieved by the fact that they had broken a 30+ year record of being at church three times a week. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). Luke 8:17, Daniel 2:22, Luke 12:2. N/A I love the Lord with all my heart-I attend church when I want and where I wantbut mostly I have bible studies with Christian friends in coffee shops, homes, and restaurants and (I usually have on a pair of blue jeans. Theres a place to rebuke abusive religious practices. Its method of operation is subversive. Deacons help the pastor care for the flock so he can give priority to prayer and the ministry of the Word. Abortion constitutes the unjustified, inexcusable taking of unborn human life. You can clap in church, we did that Mountain, the church I grew up though we didnt do it very often though. We believe that men are justified by faith alone and are accounted righteous before God only through the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I believe the Bible, and if you do not believe the Bible and hate what the Bible teaches, it is because your opinion is more important to you, than what the Bible says, and if that be so, then there is really no reason for you to go to church in the first place. People are more willing to change their ways when confronted in love rather then with criticism and bitterness. 5 Hypocrite! If you believe that stateaccreditationfor a college is bad because it means that the government dictates what that college can/does teach,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 30. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. 10. Should I choose not to forgive after Christ has already died for him? I would have rejected the advice if in my heart If didnt want the relationship anymore, but we had a kid and I needed it to work. All churches are full of sinful people, including the pastor. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. So the IFB pastor did counseling for 2 weeks and then, despite physical abuse, told you to get married! 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. I dont have to try and understand it, I already know it. The pastor pointed out (over the course of his long 2 hour sermon LOL) that a shepherd doesnt use a rod and staff to beat his sheep but to prod and guide them. If youve been taught that robbing God (not giving 10% of gross income) is the special, one specific sin that will cause God to lift all protection of your life and allow satan FULL LIBERTY to destroy you. IF you are a single Independent Fundamental Baptist where do you go to meet other single Independent Fundamental Baptists? We ARE the church my friend! We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. 9 Their worship of me is pointless, because their teachings are rules made by humans.. Hypocrites! (Matthew 28:19-20; Romans 6:4; 1 Corinthians 11:23-32), Every individual, believer and unbeliever, possesses the God-given privilege of free will having the liberty to choose what to believe. anything that even remotely appears to be worldly means that you arent being separate, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 44. Ive used tattoos but not permanent ones. *gasp* Just kidding, just kiddingwe at least look for Baptist on the sign so were good . How will you escape the judgment of hell? Our accountability comes through a board of directors comprised of 24 independent fundamental Baptist pastors who, in turn, were elected to serve as directors by independent fundamental Baptist pastors. Our only Head is the Lord Jesus Christ and our only headquarters is heaven. I like that about them and not just them but the whole church, because the company you keep will influence you. Please read https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/ for an answer to your bitterness accusation/assumption. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with the Lord with good performance You cant make up for sins nor can salvation be earned. People can ask for clarification if they want. The Baptist Fundamentals and Hermeneutics Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden. Every child of God has equal access to their Heavenly Father. In fact, if you're single you know what I'm talking about. If you believe that God cant use a divorced man and pull out your Scofield Bible to show why, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 39. 2. Forget the past and move on to do those things that shine light to the lost, edify the saints, and glorify God. G. M. Matheny. What is a Fundamental Independent Baptist Church 2 Corinthians 2:10 is a guideline not a command. Please trust me when I tell you that your IFB church (as most other IFB churches) is preying on you. I want to respond to your #30. 43. We believe that all the saved should live in such a manner as not to bring reproach upon their Savior and Lord; and, that separation from all religius apostasy, all worldly and sinful pleasures, practices and associations is commanded of God (II Timothy 3:1-5; Romans 12:1, 2, 14:13; I John 2:15-17; II John 9-11; II Corinthians 6:14-7:1). Well Pastor Wilkerson is no longer here, and welllll.as far as Im concerned will never be the same. Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. Who are the Free Will Baptists, and what do they believe? Please dont mistake this for a lack of respect or an attempt to minimize the seriousness of the abuse that happens among the Independent Fundamental Bapitsts. They simply do not know and probably lack the ability to do the research, but Cyril I. Scofield was a Confederate soldier who left his wife and two children and later remarried another woman. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. Pastors daughter did my hair and cleaned my dress with baby wipes. The last pastor I had, at Mountain, would yell sometimes on his sermons to make sense of humor since most of his sermons were pretty funny but never pounded the pulpit. Hes a different man today thanks to Gods grace in our life. I did learn a lot. We believe that Satan is a created angelic being who rebelled and who tempted man to join him in rebellion against God (Isaiah 14:12-17; Ezekiel 28:11-19; Genesis 3:1-5). No, its only announced in the powers points as a time and place. If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. Besides saying that those who practice any of these that arent saved is wrong because that is judging. Thats sweet. Happily a brainwashed Bible-folk for about 28 years with more peace in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and a firm foundation of absolute truth to stand on (yes, thats the KV, haha!). You should do something else with the time God has aloud you.Nonsense is not what people need to hear. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. Only thing Ill add to the list is, You might be an IFB if you greet all visitors with huge smiles, handshakes, and extreme cheerfulness. I feel sorry for all the visitors we almost accosted now; no wonder some never came back! God values his word, even above his own name, and when you or I meet God, what we think means nothing to God, unless it lines up with His Word. sad stuff particularly the responses from obviously brainwashed bible folks. 39. If you believe that you will be rewarded or punished according to whether or not youve tithed faithfully, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 47. From my perspective turning people away from the IFB is turning them towards God. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23), All born-again believers have the privilege of direct access to God. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher Everything is about Him, He is a jealous God. If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Did you read it? You can read some of the experiences here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. God forgave my husband through Christ. We forgive people, but only God can forgive sins. Duh Get your mind out of the gutter. Frankly its not your place to tell me what I should and shouldnt do (typical IFB who thinks they know what everyone is supposed to be doing). Clapping after special is music is wrong because it gives praise to performers rather than to God That statement is wrong. 2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; You said we dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: Would the lost or questioning feel that even if someone is attacking your comments, that youre setting an example that they could adopt? Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. We believe in salvation by grace First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. People are people and free to choose their own way. If your church funnels in inner city kids via a bus ministry, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 24. If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. The True Church: The doctrine of a believer's church is a key belief in Baptist life. Those myths are addressed in my article: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, I dont need to wait. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? You tend to lump independent Baptist or independent religious organizations into one lump, sensing that they are all the same. If you think that you should cut your vacation short so that you can make it back in time for Sunday morning Sunday School, but think its OK that your pastor miss a Sunday or two because hes on vacation, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 5. I sought counciling to see if there was anything in the Bible that could give Hope to our relationship. I love devotions with the Lord. He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. God Bless. You better be right with God and have your name written in the lambs book of life. This group is for fellowship, sharing of resources, devotional thoughts, posting of sermons, news of interest, ministry ideas, missionary/church links, KJV verse photos, and general edification. If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section, 1. are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. Believing that going to the movies is sinful but not renting them or watching them on TV I dont see anything wrong about going to the movies because I went to the movies years ago. Womens should not wear pants This is not the case at my congregation. 15. Not all churches are the same and if they are teaching Bible, they do teach about sin, and it should not be to make you feel any constraint towards the pastor to get away from that sin, but to learn to have some personal conviction that their sins need to be addressed, but THEY have to make that decision. If your your church funnels in the inner city kids via a bus ministry We dont have a bus ministry since the city of the church I go to is small. If you go to a church that sings/plays Just As I Am at the end of every service, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 21. We cant save people, only God can. You are still required to tithe in the IFB regardless of your source of income. Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. Satan's eternal end is everlasting torment in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:10). I already know where the IFB is coming from, I was indoctrinated in their dogma for 25 years. If one gives because they are forced, or constrained TO GIVE, that giving does not come from the heart, and God does not honor that kind of giving. The two are completely unrelated. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23. Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38. The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image and is mindful of him, and in that Christ died for man; therefore every individual possesses dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love. If you look down on people who are divorced, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 38. This is assuming that the parable of the prodigal son is some kind of instruction on how to deal with a troubled child To train up a child does not mean to beat him with a rod, although there BE TIMES that a spanking becomes necessary, but NEVER out of anger. The members were so sweet to us. Scofield Bible!!!! They knew it would be an investment in your giving and service to them (yes they are that evil). Smoking, drinking, partying, dancing, listening to secular music or Contemporary music arent sinful though partying can only be sinful if you are drunk. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. We wanted Gods blessing of Mariage. If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). is Looking to God for missionaries to help expand the vision and ministries of G.F.F. According to the ADL "Anti-LGBTQ bigotry and antisemitism are fundamental to New IFB ideology, as demonstrated by the doctrinal statements on their websites and the content of their sermons. Anybody who opposes the IFB teaching is bitter Cant say that because anybody who opposes BIBLICAL teaching is spiritually blind because they dont know the truth. Im told its because when u abandon the real truth, theres hardly any hope. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. The membership 29. 21. I assure you that Im living exactly how God wants me to be living and Im doing it outside of the IFB (yes it can be done LOL). 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called Rabbi.. If you think that tattoos are marks of the Devil, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 20. Independent Fundamental Baptist 25 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I forgave him before he changed. If I have misunderstood I apologize. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith around mutual interests or ministry opportunities, but one church cannot exert authority over another. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? 18. 2. 1. Theres a lot that is biblical in your post that we should want to do and some not biblical and therefore should abstain from practice. Ive known many people whom God has reached using the IFB. Gospel Furthering Fellowship Remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees? Haha, thanks for the confirmation! If your church has a tract rack outside the sanctuary, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 22. Fannin was later ejected as the lead preacher of SBC-Jax. 9 And dont address anyone here on earth as Father, for only God in heaven is your Father. The Trinity: Southern Baptists believe in only one God who reveals himself as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
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